"They want us to feel like experiencing joy is form a betrayal," Matt Rogers tells Out. "But that is not true."

Cohosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, the fourth edition of the Las Culturistas Culture Awards is gayer and more chaotic than ever -- making it the perfect year to bring this ceremony to television and broadcast the award show to a wider audience of viewers from Bravo and Peacock.

The totally unserious Las Culturistas Culture Awards, a spinoff project from the Las Culturistas podcast by Rogers and Yang, is the ultimate queer satire of mainstream awards shows. From time to time, however, this creative endeavor that Rogers describes as "organized gay chaos" actually gets really big and causes audiences to start treating it very seriously... A mood that Rogers politely and respectfully declines to engage with.

"When someone is listening to Las Cultch in the year of our Lord 2025 and being like, 'Matt talks too much,' I'm like, 'Guys, please, I have been talking too much since 2016. I'm not going to change,'" Rogers tells Out. "You're often listening to us first meeting people that we've always wanted to meet. Bowen and I are active conversationalists. Our brand is organized gay chaos."

When asked about the 2025 Culture Awards being broadcast on television for the first time ever, Rogers says that the experience felt like "Bowen and I were given the keys to Hollywood for a night. And I don't even mean just gay Hollywood; I mean big Hollywood." However, he also notes that it was important for them to do a "good job of speaking to our audience, and throwing in Easter eggs for the podcast, and making sure that this felt like the Las Culturistas comedy special."