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Planetary Level PYP Semi Finals: Kreigastartis vs Zetsu-San - Battles - Comic Vine


Planetary Level PYP Semi Finals: Kreigastartis vs Zetsu-San - Battles - Comic Vine

Oof. I really have to say, it's pretty clear you didn't read your perk descriptions or analyze them beyond a surface level. Nor did you think about my perks and abilities or how they might interact with your own.

As a result, .

Lets start with the biggest oversight in your entire argument:

1 Scranton Reality Anchor -Purchase a from SCP Foundation. Will nullify any and all matter manipulation or temporal time effects for the character wearing it.

See right there? This is not blanket rule of tourney style immunity perk. It is tied to an actual tangible device in your possession. A technological device, to be specific.

Do you know what perk I have?

1 Skynet Is Online - Skynet is a terrifying AI system. As such, you get full hack ability to opposing robots and tech base gear. If it has a computer program, it can be hacked, including the enemy team. Only one thing can be hacked at any given time though. Cannot be negated by other perks.

From the very get-go, Skynet is going to detect the only piece of technology on your person and immediately shut it off.

From there, I'm pretty much free to do whatever I want. And just to drive my point home, when drawing power from the Eliacube, Nox's machines are powerful enough to time freeze grougaloragran:

Grougaloragran is a fully grown adult dragon. Which, in the context of the Wakfu universe, is an extremely powerful demigod and direct child of the Goddess of Life. The Goddess of Life is the one who laid the Universe itself (Which is just a giant dragon egg btw), making this feat almost akin to using time freeze on a Child of Eternity.

Just to give you an idea of how cosmically important dragons are, just 6 Eggs along with a depleted Eliacube were enough to do this:

1 Magneto's Helmet - Grant a single character immunity to telepathy attacks.

Again, this is an actual physical object on your person, and one that Kaiyo can send away with a single thought, as shown in her ability to casually rearrange people's positions across entire universes:

(Scan details explained in previous post)

3 Kyoka Suigetsu - Sosuke Aizen's Zanpakuto can be wielded in battle, and with all the illusion abilities it has.

But more importantly they all have to counter Kyoka Suigutsu off rip when the match starts. Which I doubt your teams ability to fully counter.

First off, Aizan has no feats of his ability working on Technorganic Lifeforms. Setting that aside, as well as the fact that this too is an object that can be removed from your possession with a thought- you also seem to not understand how the Zanpakuto works.

1) You cannot freely manipulate the senses of anyone you want. You can only manipulate the senses of someone who has directly seen your Zanpakuto Release:

This is the entire reason Ichigo cannot be affected by Aizan's ability. He has never directly witnessed Aizan activating his Zanpakuto as he has arrived late to every single battle.

2) Zanpakuto are not static items with set levels of power. They differ based on the spiritual power of the user. This was an explicit issue that came up, when a character other than Aizan attempted to use it:

I suppose the flames aren't strong enough to melt a zanpaku-to with my spiritual pressure. Even if I dedicated the entirety of my spiritual pressure toward doing that, I wouldn't be able to raise the temperature to that point.

Tokinada looked at Kazeshini's blade as it cut through the wall of flames. As he fully grasped that Hisagi was perceiving his movements through spiritual pressure alone it also sank in that his spiritual pressure would never reach anywhere near Genryusai Yamamoto's. Had he been able to use Genryusai Yamamoto's actual Ryujin Jakka, he could have burned everything away with a heat strong enough to evaporate even a zanpaku-to; the whole matter would have been resolved using that single ability, without reliance on Complete Hypnosis.

Still, I need to deal with him before all the riffraff around here recover.

If he dedicated enough spiritual pressure to his attack to burn all of them in an instant, he would have to decrease the spiritual pressure he was putting into Complete Hypnosis by an equal amount, and it was possible that would end up creating an opening he couldn't control

- Can't Fear Your Own World, Vol 3, pg 222

3) The Hypnosis ability takes energy to sustain. So even if you could somewhat effect my characters, all of whom are powerful spiritual energy manipulators, you'd likely run out of energy before long:

Though Tokinada's other zanpaku-to abilities were not performing as efficiently as before -possibly because he was pouring his spiritual powers into Kyoka Suigetsu(..)

"Tokinada's spiritual pressure is a far cry from Aizen's. That's why I think there must be a limit to his Complete Hypnosis abilities... But even without that power he's still a formidable opponent."

- Can't Fear Your Own World, Vol 3, pg 175

4) Your character has no knowledge on any member of my team. He doesn't know their personalities, their abilities, the way they fight, the sound of their voice, or even what they look like. Which means the moment they notice any sort of oddities in the performance of their allies, they would know something is wrong and leave. So no, you are not going to "make us attack each other".

How naive. In that case, I can overwrite his voice, form and trajectory of his attacks using Complete Hypnosis.

However, in order to completely reproduce those aspects of Hisagi, he needed some time to observe Hisagi's voice and the way the Soul Reaper attacked. If any of it were even slightly off, Kyoraku would realize that and react. Tokinada had an absolute advantage because of Complete Hypnosis, but he did not let his guard down.

- Can't Fear Your Own World, Vol 3, pg 180

5) The activation of a Zanpakuto can actually be directly snuffed out when touched by someone more powerful.

"Do you remember the method in which Kyoka Suigetsu can be rendered powerless?" Aura's monotone voice spilled from her smiling face.

Kyoka Suigetsu was a zanpaku-to of absolute superior power once it was invoked. However, it had a weakness as a result of that. If the target were to touch the blade before it was invoked, then Complete Hypnosis could not be implemented.

Had Tokinada been Aizen, he might have been able to fulfill the conditions of having those around him see the shikai the moment it was invoked. However, now that someone other than Aizen was using the blade, another weakness was involved. Tokinada's spiritual pressure was nowhere near Aizen's level, and because of that, it was possible for the shikai transformation itself to be sealed through incredibly strong spiritual pressure.

- Can't Fear Your Own World, Vol 3, pg 232

Now here is the interesting part. Tokinada, the character using Aizan's power here, attempted to skirt around this issue by splitting the sword into multiple parts making it so that one would have to grab every part at the same time.

However, this was countered by a specific character's ability:

There were a limited number of people in that place who had spiritual pressure comparable to or exceeding Tokinada's who also were not under the effects of Complete Hypnosis, There was Hikone Ubuginu, Kenpachi Zaraki, Kugo Ginjo...

... and Aura Michibane.

The moment he turned his eyes to her, she had already finished her work. At the same time he felt himself being put under restraints, he also felt something else coming from Enra Kyoten, which he gripped. He realized that, at that moment, every single one of the many different blades that were manifested in that place were being touched by something.

- Can't Fear Your Own World, Vol 3, pg 233

She "touched" every blade at once. But not physically. You see, Aura has the ability to disperse her astral form into a whisp:

"Are you a Quincy? No... that's not it. If you're in league with Yukio, I guess that makes you a Fullbringer."

"You're exactly right... No."

She stopped speaking, and the moment he looked down the woman disappeared as though she had been dispersed into the air.

"Huh?!"

Hisagi was in shock. Just as he was thinking it was some sort of illusion Yukio had created, he realized an arm was wrapped around the upper half of his body.

"Uh... Huh?!"

He didn't feel as though anything were touching him. Hisagi's keen spiritual pressure senses didn't detect anything at all out of place, and as he turned, shaking off the arm in a panic, his hand cut through empty air. However, his eyes most certainly saw a slender arm gently hugging him close from behind. And as though to prove it wasn't a hallucination, a woman's beguiling voice resonated in his ear, "I suppose this is when I'm supposed to say 'exacta', Ninth Company Assistant Captain?"

- Can't Fear Your Own World, Vol 2, pg 181

Now who does this sound incredibly similar to?

Yes, Kaiyo has the exact same ability to disperse her body into an astral whisp and envelop the surroundings. In the above she not only envelops by Superman and Batman with this same energy, but she was actively attacking their minds, causing them both essentially be frozen in place and unable to react.

Something she was even able to do to 2 Supermen, 2 Batmen, a Wonder Woman, a Catwoman, and a Lois Lane, at the same time:

Oh, and lets say, for the sake of discussion, we assumed you could use Kyoka Suigetsu on level with base Aizan, on account of it being a perk that you paid for. All of my characters should still have significantly greater spiritual/cosmic energy than a base Aizan would. Warclock has the Eliacube which frankly, should be sufficient on its own. Kaiyo is a New God, and even the weakest of the New Gods, the kinds that would get grief from Batman in a fight, are still powerful higher dimensional beings who should be teeming with spiritual/cosmic energy.

Now, I could bring up showings for the above. I could argue all kinds of resistance feats and conceptual power showings for Warclock and Kaiyo, or get into so so soooo many other multi-layered counters for the Kyoka Suigetsu; but I think I've spent to much time on the subject already. At least for this post.

And frankly, I also just don't see the point in going down that road at all. I've already proven that Kaiyo can free you of your possessions without even coming near you.

But hey, if you really really want to go down this dead end road, that just means I have some fresh content for my next post, instead of just continuing to beat a dead horse. Well, I guess I'd be beating a dead horse regardless, but you get the point.

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